iron-ic t-rust

I reckon
Jack’s bean stalker must surely
have been named …

Rusty

The giant’s recipe does
highlight a problem
inherent in
bodies of …

iron-ic construction.

Under the right conditions,
they can all too easily
be ground into

dust rust

Given sufficient time, oxygen, and water, any iron mass will eventually convert entirely to rust and disintegrate

I used to take the narrow view of rust …

.. until I quite-by-chanced upon,
a wonderfully strange love

Most people ignore rust, but I find it to be beautiful. I can’t pass up a piece of rust in the street without picking it up. I hold it in my hands and am awed by the richness of its colors. I love how the coppery powder leaves an imprint on my fingers, transferring a little piece of itself onto me. I save every piece I find and, over the years, have collected a whole bag full of rusty treasuresrusty link

This woman’s enchantment inspired a rethink.

So today we’re going to look at rust
as a whole,
& a hole,
& see what it has to say.

Rustdeteriorate or degenerate through inactivity or neglect

any habit, influence, growth, etc. injurious to usefulness, to the mind or character, etc.

disuse of mental or moral powers

to deteriorate or spoil, as through disuse: a mind that has rusted

The origin of this russet viewing came because I was concerned about truth – concerned about steering people wrong, concerned about a few mind-webs I’d encountered of late, concerned about the glut of trust in the wold.

Did you realise that trust is comprised mostly of rust

Recently I visited an idea-explosive website …

I will never think in quite
the same way
again.

And
yet,
at the same time
I was left with a …

… strangely bitter aftertaste.

This flavouring became clearer when contemplating the words of a friend:

He who heals can also kill

In this truth-seeking arena there seem to be so many, many ways we can be wooed, screwed & in-toxicated,

i.e.

  • Apparent insider knowledge
  • Scientific fact / anomalies
  • The offering of long lost wisdom
  • Information with a wonderful feel-good factor / feel-good presenter

I do try to keep my feet on the ground, but on the site that upside-downed my world I found myself doing a Goldilocks impersonation …

… wandering away from my centre & going deeper into someone else’s woods. It was a bit of a struggle to pull out.

In re-watching the amazing linked vid from my last wee post I now find myself unsure of the interviewee – I loved her ideas, but also there’s a feeling of wariness. When I look/listen more critically I note that it is the life-force of …

the interviewer that impassions that discussion.

I am reminded of how little I actually know & how many potential mind-fields there are out there.  I realise it’s just as possible that my work is a min(e)d-field.

It is well to remember that we’re all flying blind &
every ones work,
is
guess work.

That being said we return now to playful speculation via a circuitous route.

One thing that bugs me & seriously hinders play, is a swarm of answers.

Instead of feeling wiser,
I feel …

pestered.

Let’s take the word teacher.

teacher “one who teaches,” c.1300; see teach. It was used earlier in a sense of “index finger” (late 13c.)

teach O.E. tæcan … “to show, point out“.

If you’ve been keeping up, you’ll get that!

As pointing out is not conducive to learning (& may be hazardous to one’s health), I suggest we amend ‘teach‘ & ‘teacherto what they should have been (& maybe once were),

tease‘ – (teach)

tease “To arouse hope, desire, or curiosity in without affording satisfaction

&

teaser‘ – (teacher)

To urge persistently; coax“.

A fine example of teaching by teasing comes in Linda Tucker’s book “Mystery of the White Lions“.

Her mysterious ‘rescue’ from lions prompted a great quest for answers & she tracked down the Zulu shaman, Credo Mutwa (I do understand people have mixed feeling about the man). Nevertheless his teaching/teasing method was phenomenal – he consistently refused to give clear or long answers – every visit left Tucker with more questions than it answered – she was shaken, stirred & teased but very seldom answered …

Thus she undertook a ten year search to find her own answers.
(As healthy questioning is being encouraged in this article, we also allow the possibility that the shaman was directing her on another level). Yet I believe the example remains valid.

Let’s suggest that the essence of teasing is what real learning is all about –
whetting the appetite,
tempting

making ravenous,
stimulating healthy envy,
brewing curiosity,
&
stirring up …

GRAND desires.

Teasing is a meagre but delectable menu that provides hors d’oeuvres only. The main meal (& dessert) are left in your hands.

So here’s where I wanted to bring in the idea of rust.

Let’s suggest that when we do not use our own mind-tools, cook up our own menus/ideas/answers, or create our own creations, then rust sets in:

Am I allowed to s-t-r-e-t-c-h to so a wild a theory as rusting minds?

Actually I think I can just about manage it.

We are ironic creatures:

iron gives our blood its deep red color

human blood smells of the iron which its cells contain

Given sufficient time, oxygen, and water, any iron mass will eventually convert entirely to rust and disintegrate

Ever noticed how the need for copious quantities of …

water & oxygen has been pumped into us by pointers experts.

What if mental-rust sets in when the mind is not constantly forged by its owner?

What if a mind can be rusted & brought down?

The description of rusting is quite interesting:

Rustdegenerate through inactivity or neglect

to deteriorate or spoil, as through disuse: a mind that has rusted

The importance of die-try iron is oft pointed out.

But are we a little too tRusting?

Q: You believe iron is a deadly substance. Why?

Iron is a potentially toxic heavy metal. In excess, it can cause cancer, heart disease, and other illnesses.

Q: Could you tell us about some of these studies?

In the 1960s the World Health Organization found that when iron supplements were given to anemic people in Africa, there was a great increase in the death rate from infectious diseases, especially malaria. Around the same time, research began to show that the regulation of iron is a central function of the immune system, and that this seems to have evolved because iron is a basic requirement for the survival and growth of cells of all types, including bacteria, parasites, and cancer. The pioneer researcher in the role of iron in immunity believed that an excess of dietary iron contributed to the development of leukemia and lymphatic cancers.”  Ray Peat~ Link

Greek historical fore-(or five)-thoughts suggest we are in the dregs of the iron age:

… in which humans are beset by innumerable pains and evils

The term Golden Age … refers to the first in a sequence of four or five (or more) Ages of Man, in which the Golden Age is first, followed in sequence, by the Silver, Bronze, and Iron Ages, and then the present, a period of decline.

Biblically, it doesn’t looking ‘rosy’ either:

Daniel tells Nebuchadnezzar that he dreamed of a large, brilliant statue or idol standing before him. This statue had a head made of fine gold, a chest and arms of silver, a belly of brass, legs of iron, and feet made partly of iron and partly of clay.

Then a stone, cut out without the use of hands, enters the dream. It strikes the statue on its feet of iron and clay, smashing the entire idol into dust. As the wind blows the dust away, the stone becomes a great mountain that fills the whole earth

Do we fall or are we pushed?

The Brahma Kumaris and Prajapita Brahma Kumaris make reference to five yuga in a single cycle of 5000 years in which the Golden Age, or Satya yuga, is first and lasts for 1250 years. Three of the remaining four; Thretha Yuga (Silver Age), Dwarpar Yuga (Copper Age) and Kali Yuga (Iron Age), also last for 1250 years each. A fifth age of only 100 years exists from Brahma Kumari souls called the Sangum Yuga (Confluence Age) during which time …

… the Iron Age is destroyed and the Golden Age created. Every 5,000 Year cycle repeats identically the same.

Hindus believe that human civilization degenerates spiritually during the Kali Yuga, which is referred to as the Dark Age because in it people are as far removed as possible from God

The history riters didn’t make it look too cheery for us.  Are we fated to walk in circles?

Personally I’d prefer to live creatively, as opposed to sick-lically.

Can we turn these omnipresent iron-themes to our advantage – is there more to iron than meets the eye?

Let’s take a meandering walk …

… on the ferric side.

Iron is a chemical element with the symbol Fe (from Latin: ferrum) and atomic number 26 … It is the most common element in the whole planet Earth

Iron has a long and varied tradition in the mythology and folklore of the world. As human blood smells of the iron which its cells contain, and blood in many traditions is equated with the life-force, so iron and minerals have been considered to be the blood or life-force of the Earth

We call copper “itussi”, which means the helper, the frightener away of evil spirits …

… but we call iron insiindi which means the evil metal, the metal of war

Iron: The Metal of Magic

Although not shiny and beautiful like silver or gold, at times, iron’s value was perceived as superior. The invading Spaniards noted that Aztec priests prized their iron ritual knives above their gold ones!

Throughout traditional cultures of Africa and Western Asia, ironworkers were, and still are, considered master magical practitioners, simultaneously respected and feared. Known as ‘Masters of Fire,’ they are believed to have access to the secrets of Earth’s womb

The fire was lit at about 4pm on a full moon night … When this was red-hot, alternate layers of iron ore nuggets and charcoal were dropped … through the chimney … A team of smelters would work through the night. …  Menstruating women were not allowed near the furnace as it was believed that it would jinx the process. The extraction of iron was seen as a birthing process, hence the womb-like shape of the furnace and the phallic shape of the tuyeres. A woman of child bearing age or a man whose wife was pregnant could not come near the furnace. The furnace could not give birth to iron at the same time as another human birth.

In the early days of iron making in Europe it was called the ‘Black art”.

of interest

iron  =  noir

noir, noire   n. adj.           black

 “In ancient Greece …

no iron was brought into the temples … Ireland, Scotland, Finland, China, Korea, India, and other countries have sever taboos against iron. Again & again in ancient rituals, fire was made without iron, altars built without its use and magical rituals performed only after divesting the body of all traces of the metal

The Jews used no iron tools in building their Temple in Jerusalem, nor in making an altar

Celtic legend also tells of a cauldron that was useful to warring armies: dead warriors could be put into the cauldron and would be returned to life, save that they lacked the power of speech. It was suspected that they lacked souls. These warriors could go back into battle until they were killed again

In Plutarch’s mystical writings, iron and lodestone is referred to the as ‘bone‘ or ‘core‘ of the gods

Speaking of which …

It is important to me that the Angel is rooted in the ground”  Antony Gormley~sculptor Angel of the North, Gateshead England.

“Kind of weird, inhuman looking” – quote from my son who has seen it.

The Angel of the North … is a steel (iron alloy) sculpture of an angel, standing 20 metres (66 ft) tall, with wings measuring 54 metres (177 ft) across … 600 tonnes of concrete were used to create foundations

Speaking of foundations …

In a July 1996 show which aired on CNN, scientist reported making a monumental discovery regarding the nature of the Earth’s central core … 

 … According to seismologist Xiaodong Song and his fellow researcher Richard Paul, the Earth’s core is a “giant iron crystal slightly smaller but more dense than the moon

Meanwhile 38 years earlier in Belgium…

“Expo 58, also known as the Brussels World’s Fair … was held from 17 April to 19 October 1958. It was the first major World’s Fair after World War II …  The site is best known for a giant model of a unit cell of an iron crystal … called the Atomium, which decades later remains one of the best known landmarks of Brussels …  it stands 102 meters (335 ft) tall

We’re told this iron cell, that took 3 years to build … but only had a shelf life of six months …

The monument was originally planned to stand there for six months

you can’t believe everything you’re told:

It received monument status and stayed on the former exhibition grounds for over 50 years. It is now one of Brussels’ main attractions

Strangely, very strangely, this beloved iron cell is mighty cagey – you risk financial dismemberment should you try to display an image on your site:

SABAM, Belgium’s society for collecting royalties, has claimed worldwide intellectual property rights on all reproductions of the Atomium image  …  issued a demand that a United States website remove all images of the Atomium from its pages …   There are some cases however where use of the image of the Atomium is not restricted … where photographs are taken by private individuals and shown on private websites …  as long as these pictures are displayed at a low resolution” – hence really bad drawing above.

While the world totters on wobbly legs, the home of the Atomium has it’s bottom seated firmly on the pulse of power:

Brussels has since World War II become the administrative centre of many international organizations. Notably the European Union (EU) and the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) … along with many other international organisations such as the Western European Union, World Customs Organization and EUROCONTROL

This city seems to be the capital of everything these days

There’s a storm of change raging through Europe. It started with the end of the war and the birth of the new Europe, but it picked up velocity a hundred-fold in the last few years, with Brussels right at its centre. The new Europe!

If the seismologists have it right, then an iron crystal lies at the core of the earth, while coincidentally another lies very strategically at the core of the New World.

So where was I going with all this?

Well I’ve been wondering if it might be important for us to wonder about iron & the major role it plays in our inner & outer worlds.

It may be much more than we realise:

In one of Hans Selye’s pioneering studies, he found that he could experimentally produce a form of scleroderma (hardening of the skin) in animals by administering large doses of iron, followed by a minor stress

I apologise, I tried to leave that animal experiment out of this article, but it got stuck without it (if we were not so ‘pre-hardened’ these experiments could never happen).

If Iron plus minor stress creates a hardening‘ of the skin – what is now being done to the beings of this planet? This would include animals whose environment is being raped & polluted.

Sounds like an armoured attack.

What if the iron content of our bodies combined with today’s carefully crafted stresses, fears & toxicity cause the hardening, compacting (or arming/armouring) of humanity?

What then?

Well what if we are meant to be our own blacksmiths & forgers?

What if we are meant to use the iron within us for our own protection & defence?

ironworkers were, and still are, considered master magical practitioners, simultaneously respected and feared. Known as ‘Masters of Fire,’ they are believed to have access to the secrets of Earth’s womb

What if we are meant to keep an inner fire glowing red hot by using our minds, hearts & bodies on daily basis – never letting the fire go out – mostly keeping the iron molten & flowing, yet having the ability to forge implements of protection when necessary.

What if, when we do not use our own clear thinking & questioning, we allow other peoples iron structures to take root in us? And what if at the same time, our own start to rust?

If iron is a potent, metal of war then what would we forge?

It seems to me that what is most needed is razor sharp thinking to cut through the thickets of lies, deceit & illusion.

Perhaps we are the keepers & forgers of iron.

Or perhaps we once learned how to control it by keeping our inner furnaces alive.

Perhaps fear & stress put out the fire.

Perhaps without that inner fire, the iron hardens, we become rigid & our humanity dies.

Why is it that are we being overloaded with iron?

Flour, pasta, etc., almost always contain iron which has been artificially added as ferrous sulfate, because of a federal law …  A few years ago, someone demonstrated that they could pick up a certain breakfast cereal with a magnet, because of the added iron

To finish let’s contemplate the other side of this theoretical iron coin.

Let’s consider the possibilities of rust.

We do seem to have the must incredible, unyielding, structures within us – you know the ones we try & try to move, but they never budge.  Bridges that take us to the same dead-end places again & again & again.

Just supposing they were somehow constructed with/through bodily iron – then perhaps we could learn to use the forces of water & oxygen to our own advantage …

… & get rusting.

Foot breath notes (inspired by sundaemon’s comment) on deep breathing for your consideration:

Deep respiration interferes with metabolic processes in cells, causes oxygen starvation, eliminates vital substances from the body (sodium, potassium, calcium, phosphorus) to compensate internal alkaline shifts, distorts immune reactions and results in the accumulation of incompletely oxidized products and substances which come into contact with incoming protein allergens and can provoke allergopathological responses”  Link

Carbon dioxide is, in fact, a more fundamental component of living matter than is oxygen. Life probably existed on earth for millions of years prior to the carboniferous era, in an atmosphere containing a much larger amount of carbon dioxide than at present. There may even have been a time when there was no free oxygen available in the air. Even now, such animals as ascaris will live and be active in an atmosphere of hydrogen and entirely without oxygen”   Henderson Y, Carbon dioxide, in Cyclopedia of Medicine, ed. by HH Young, Philadelphia, FA Davis, 1940. Site Link

On April 26, 1986, there was an accident at a nuclear station in Chernobyl …  it wasn’t just adults who were inside the radiation zone, there were children too. People were being … anyone who could leave, did.

 However, Konstantin P. Buteyko acted differently. He told his wife: “Don’t be afraid, pack your things; we are flying out!” … How could Konstantin – a medical doctor and outstanding scientist who understood the consequences of radiation poisoning – expose himself and his wife to such a risk? “He was totally confident that everything would be fine,” Ludmila remembers, “since shallow breathing acts like a guardian angel and protects from radiation. So, we decided to go to the place of this nuclear disaster in order to help people protect themselves against radiation poisoning.” Link

These are some ideas to give you more stories to contemplate – I really think there is huge power in having extra stories as opposed to one li(n)e of hard fact.

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September 12, 2011. Uncategorized.

34 Comments

  1. Mick replied:

    I reckon get rusting. What use is heavy armour when swimming the waters of life, you sink and drown. I always remember being told to thicken my skin as a child as i was considered too senstive.
    The blacksmith I’m not sure about. Aren’t they a form of ‘sun’ cult, and always male. Having “access to the secrets of Earth’s womb” seems like a diplomatic way of saying plunderers. Much like the male dominated tantric sects – the female energy is theirs for the taking.
    Teach is a lovely anagram of cheat.
    Thanks Alex.

  2. Ferdinand replied:

    Federal power is Fe-based, with Fe-Ma as the Iron Maiden. That’s why we have Big Sis Napolitano, Condi Rice, Hillary Clitnon, Janet Reno, Elena Kagan, etc as the “powerful” Fe-Males who act like men in the US. Lady Liberty has never looked so ugly, but she’s actually Copper, not Iron. Cu is 29. 3 (Li, Lithium) + 26 (Fe) = 29, Copper. LiFe is Lithium Iron, a rechargeable battery.

  3. Michael Skaggs replied:

    Which in turn makes me wonder about the introduction of the “meat diet”, if truly we were not meant to “consume” iron, but rather, our bodies do produce it. A friend in Ayurvedic medicine suggested back in the Golden Ages we ate fruits and vegetables from the Earth herself, and not the animals. Wonder if maybe it was due to consuming blood and the ‘iron’ within.

    Hmmmm….Interesting. Thanks for the ponderings.

    Cheers!

  4. sundaemon replied:

    Syncs remarkably with my own meanderings of late. This included the realisation that oxygen is poisonous, and not just in large doses. (Bit like their claims, “hey mercury in vaccines is fine in small doses!” Erm, but it’s not actually necessary at all, is it?)

    We’ve been fed a LOT of hot oxygen, it’s claimed that it’s all we need (along with LOVE/EVOL, hm evol-ution), whereas that honour goes to nitrogen. Divers know that oxygen is toxic below the water, why should it be any different above the surface?

    Plus the monopoly-manufacturers of diving TANKS (T-ankhs) are Luxfer Ltd. Yup, Lucy gives us all the oxygen we can handle, and more. Plus they replaced steel tanks with that familiar industrial waste-product aluminium. “The bends” requires an iron lung.

    There’s a lot more to this, I’m sure. With regard to; iron in blood, and iron giving a red colour, and the blood the priests need to be spilt the world over for their spells. Rust being red. Heated iron glows red. The sun appears to be ferrous and magnetic in nature, and the moon too.

    Just occurred to me – magnetic/magenta. Magus, magic. Ah, coincidence.

    And when we’re talking (electro-)magnetism, perhaps the one great secret of our iron prison, giving us that big iron key, we have: Iron. Ion. Lion. Zion. I think Bob Marley was trying to tell us something.

  5. Mick replied:

    All those correspondences have reminded me of P K Dick’s concept of ‘the Black Iron Prison’.

    Isn’t there a legend that our blood used to be copper based before it became iron?

  6. Aeve replied:

    Good thoughts here Alex. I have wondered about iron deficiency and how it may be related to stress, as nearly every blood work I have ever had done results in the words “iron tablets” :/ Surely in a world where we are free to create and be ourselves, bodies would function as they were intended.
    The links connecting iron and the “fall of man” are interesting too. And this whole cycle thing, as if we are so dependant on the gods and their games for our wellbeing and survival. Just to make sure we get the point, the use of gods in architecture keeps these stories in our psyche. I find myself sighing a lot these days as I wander around Brisbane.

  7. Mick replied:

    It seems the goddess Freya represents the Bronze Age, and the god Odin the Iron Age.

    After having come to Asgardr and begun her career as priestess and teacher in the mysteries of fate – her contribution to and main purpose in the pantheon – Freya marries the mysterious Odr, whose name means Poetry, and is probably another way of saying Odin. Of course, Odin/Odr is poetry in the sense of verbal and thought creativity, the force that brings forth human reality. Married to the goddess of wisdom and learning, this creativity is a blessing indeed.
    They have two daughters who are not important in any known myths, their names meaning only Treasure and Jewel, and should be understood as metaphors for the happy outcome of such a union.
    When Odr one day vanishes, Freya embarks on a journey throughout the world, looking for her lost Poetry. Everywhere she goes she takes a new shape and a new name, which explains why she often shows up in disguise in the myths, wearing other names than Freya. Everywhere she goes, she leaves her tears of red gold – metaphors for sacred wisdom.
    She appears in disguise, and is known by her purpose:
    The Great Goddess of Initiations
    The above is, summing up, the facts that the sources have left us about Freya while using the name of Freya. As we shall see, she shows up with other names later. The character that is really speaking up from the ancient texts is not a goddess to be safely dismissed in the “women´s arena” of sex and childbirths. It is a goddess who keeps the secret mysteries of fate, a goddess of wisdom and esoteric knowledge, a goddess of the unknown, of the secret powers in the realm of the dead, and a goddess of initiations into the great mysteries of the afterlife.
    It is also a goddess of numerous shapes and faces, and this revelation of Snorri makes it possible to understand more about her role in Norse mythology: She appears in disguise, and is known by her purpose: The teacher, the initiator, the consecrator. She is the female who weeps for her lost poetry, who offers divine knowledge with a drink, who travels through the world in order to teach, and who receives the heroes at the end of their trials.
    And this, basically, is what all the female characters of the Edda are up to in each and every myth –teaching, guiding, and consecrating.
    They are all Freya, the Great Goddess of Initiations.

    From

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=150148709034&topic=12845

  8. Joanne replied:

    Alex – What a brilliant article. I would so like to share this with my old history teacher. Thank you for so many varying sources on this note – I can see this thinking took you on a wonderful adventure! The bit about the iron forging and the menstruating/pregnant women, and husbands of pregnant women… amazing. And yes, IRONic, what a gem. How did I fail to notice the obvious!?

    I really enjoy this thinking/talking about trust, as well. I struggle with trust – to the point of rust. Perhaps we all do.

    I like where your work has been taking you lately, Alex. Your last piece about breasts has been heavy on my mind for the past week or so – I’d like to rewatch the interview before I comment further. But the food for thoughts you’ve been giving, especially recently, have been very nourishing indeed. I so appreciate that you tread your writing delicately and playfully. And you’re right, perhaps we are more effective in our efforts as writers/healers (as opposed to just pointers) if we simply lay down the path of breadcrumbs. Something worth a little more meandering :]

    Lovely piece, Alex. Continue taking great care
    -Joanne

    • Joanne replied:

      Alex two things I forgot to mention in my comment. Loved the bit about the Brussels World Fair too – took an art history class on Worlds Fairs earlier this year – it’s amazing how influential they’ve been in regards to art, architecture, industry, and social trends (and coercion) on the whole. You might be interested in the baby incubators that were introduced at the world’s fairs – apparently they were located in the “freaks” section. I guess sick babies (from lower classes) were confiscated to be incubated in this setting, as this was before incubation was a practice in hospitals. Can’t remember which fair(s) this became common practice, but look into that if you get a chance.

      Also, after I replied to your blog last night, I listened to a broadcast one of my friends sent me a few days ago. If you or your readers have time, you may enjoy it. At one point the hosts discuss iron production in the body, as well as female menstruation/ovulation cycles in relation to celestial shifts. Thought it was too relevant not to share

      http://www.blogtalkradio.com/anpuastrology/2011/09/10/elenin-the-black-star-how-u-can-c-it-what-is-its-purpose

  9. alex robinson replied:

    Hi Mick
    If we are so ‘swamped’ in iron I reckon it would be better to learn how to use it ourselves – are you so evil that you would plunder the earth’s womb? I think not. What do we lose when we refuse to lay claim to, & use our abilities?

    Yes am dubious of tantra – which is the background of the woman in the video – that being said I believe we are quite capable of grazing & scavenging for ideas as long as we don’t sell ourselves out.

    Nice catch on the word teach

    see you further down the page :)

    Great Kyle
    LiFe b’Atari – “The word ‘atari’ is used in Japanese when a prediction comes true or when someone wins a lottery.”

    And don’t forget that across the waters they had the Iron Lady – Margaret Thatcher. These Fe Males are indeed very metallic – hard to imagine they were ever able to breast feed a child.
    FeAr – Iron + Argon “Ar The name “argon” is derived from the Greek word αργον meaning “lazy” or “the inactive one” – thus fear = the heaviness of iron combined with the lethargy of Argon … interesting

    very best to you

    What a great thought Michael – did we perhaps impRIsON ourselves when we started eating meat?

    Need to ponder this

    very best to you my dear

  10. Mick replied:

    Well, the opposite of evil is live.
    It is interesting that forge can also mean fraudulently making or altering anything, esp. in writing, a counterfeit (Chambers dictionary). Which, by association, leads to deception. Yet, it can also mean to move forward steadily.
    In Crabb’s English Synonyms, ‘forge’ is under the heading ‘invent’. I think the associations below are interesting:
    Invent – that which is the fruit of one’s own mind and mostly contrary to the truth.
    Feign – that which is unreal.
    Frame – that which requires deliberation and arrangement.
    Fabricate and forge are employed for that which is absolutely false and requiring more or less exercise of the inventive power. A story is invented, inasmuch as it is new and not before conceived by others or occasioned by the suggestions of others; it is framed inasmuch as it requires to be duly disposed in all its parts, to be consistent; it is fabricated, inasmuch as it runs in direct opposition to actual circumstances and therefore has required the skill and labour of a workman; it is forged, inasmuch as it seems by its utter falsehood and extravagance to have caused as much severe action in the brain as what is produced by the fire in a furnace or forge.

    The plot thickens, like coagulating blood, perhaps.

  11. aferrismoon replied:

    Red-hair is often described as ‘rusty’ coloured.

    Redheads in history and mythology have a bit of bad-reputation.

    cheers

  12. alex robinson replied:

    sundaemon – really interesting thoughts & info!

    I did a Buteyko course for some breathing difficulties I was having once & it helped a lot – it focuses on building up & maintaining carbon dioxide in the body – the idea is that it allows the body to absorb oxygen easier – but your info on oxygen is intruguing – I certainly found it useful- perhaps the explanation has been made to fit the ‘oxygen is god’ theory – maybe carbon dioxide is potent in its own right!

    The iron/blood connection is certainly BIG & yes this fascination & demand for the spilling of fresh blood onto the earth which then turns ‘rusty’ – still trying to get my head round some of the thoughts that appeared with writing this plus all the great ideas coming thro comments.

    very best to you

    Hi Aeve
    I know what you mean – always the “you’re iron is low” speech – there was even talk once of an iron infusion – doesn’t infusion sound like a nice word – you go the place where they’re ‘infusing’ people with chemo drugs & they give you intravenous iron. I don’t know what the real story is on iron, up until a few days ago I only knew the official story, then I happened upon Ray Peat’s site & “The dangers of iron” – now I have questions!

    Do the god’s rely on the iron in our bodies to keep them alive?

    very best to you

    Hi Mick
    I’ve heard of iron prison ideas, but that leaves us no way out – yet duality seems to imply that there’s always another side to any coin – even iron – perhaps it is rust & that we have the ability to be super-rusters :) or as I wondered in the article do we need to learn how to forge iron & use it to our advantage – I like the imagery of us crafting swords & armour as needed then melting them back again when we have done – it’s all guess work, but the thought of an iron prison really dampens my fire & creates hopelessness & that is imprisoning.

    Odin is fated to be killed by Fenrir.

    Poetry & creation – I think they are human powers – we are birthers of magnificence – why do we need gods/goddesses? – always it seems we’re given these middle-men/gods who have great job descriptions, do very little (if anything) & charge very high prices for their ‘services’. Maybe the fall of Nebudzzzzzz statue was a god-fall – they’re the ones so preoccupied with precious metals/idol worship – perhaps the clay is simply the return of humanity – I read a comment somewhere that pointed out how iron & clay don’t mix – the statue couldn’t fall if it had iron feet, it’s the clay mixed in that ‘unsettles’ it.
    very best to you

    Thanks Joanne
    Actually this article was quite ‘hard’ work – was only meant to be a small offering of thoughts on trust – the dangers of giving it away so freely & how it seems to turn off our ability to think/question clearly – all the words we’re given are packed with meaning, but “trust” seems to come with extra helpings – I think perhaps it needs to be handled cautiously – the fact that it’s plastered onto the American dollar “In God we Trust” should be more than enough to set off warning bells. I’m guessing that trust & answers have a very close affiliation – I think they can ‘shut us down’.

    So I think the beast vid touched you? I think it would touch many women very deeply – I have so many ideas forming now, building & expanding – this is a huge topic…

    That is very interesting on the worlds fairs – I’ve come across mention of them before but never thought about their impact – but of course prior to having a tv in every home what better way to reach out & touch the masses. Matthew Delooze pointed out Expo 58 & the Atomium in one of his books – I can’t remember what he said now but he had very bad feelings about it.

    Thanks for the link!

    very best to you

  13. tom cuddy replied:

    I’ve had time to reflect upon a word mentioned herein; “rust”
    My time in the bakery lead (not golden) me to think of how a crust
    forms on bread. Certainly crusty bread is my preference. Blood
    when dried and scabby also forms a crust. No conclusions made
    just an observation.

    I liked your thought about how the drinking of water as linked to rust
    and water being so promoted as an essential part of good health.
    My additional thought also would question if mainstream medicine
    is on board then is there a possibility for concern. Water, moisture is
    the key ingredient in the degradation of iron. Since blood is carrying
    iron, too much might cause harm.

    The romans would soak their swords in water to drink for the iron.
    I don’t know where they got that idea.

    I watched the film link about breasts. The interviewee gave me the
    impression that she was uncomfortable. Once again, I don’t know why.
    I felt her uneasiness. Maybe it was the interviewer.

    Grateully, thoughtfully, yours

  14. Mick replied:

    Another part of your essay got me thinking:
    … no iron was brought into the temples … Ireland, Scotland, Finland, China, Korea, India, and other countries have sever taboos against iron. Again & again in ancient rituals, fire was made without iron, altars built without its use and magical rituals performed only after divesting the body of all traces of the metal“
    In faery folklore iron, along with running water, is said to banish a malign sprite back to the otherworld. It has been theorised that iron is a disruptor of ‘higher frequency’. J P Farrell has suggested that ancient temples are constructed in such a fashion that they act as resonators and devices of amplification affording communication across continents, and presumably into other dimensions.
    Another change that allgedly came with the iron age, was the transformation of the world tree from yew to ash.
    The Atomium – M Delooze links it to the Ennead, and the word itself to Atum Ra. He quotes from the blurb: “7 sections and 52 countries participated with more than 150 pavilions. The theme of the fair was: A world view – A new humanism”. Isn’t this ‘new humanism’ a merging of man and machine, of A.I.? It also represents time via the days of the week and the weeks of the year, and thus a link to Saturn.
    MD dismisses the official explanation of “the Atomium is a symbol of the atom concept because it represents a crystal molecule of metal, actually of the centred cubic system”. yet this brings me back to P K Dick and his black iron cube.
    A, perhaps irrelevant aside, is that Barbara Hand Clow claimed the Anunnaki, as she was informed, were creatures dominated by a metallic element, rather than earth, fire, air or water.

  15. Mick replied:

    I also have to add that Odin, from the old norse odr (i think, i haven’t checked yet) represents spiritual inspiration. Interesting that he is ‘consumed’ by the iron wolf FEnrir.

  16. celticrebel replied:

    If I remember correctly, per Lana Cantrell, one of the primary reasons the ancients used to live a lot longer than us, is they had a lot of copper in their blood, in lieu of iron, hence the green tint, in lieu of the internal red and outside pink..Perhaps these green gods were once ourselves, and not some alien race.

    Good stuff to contemplate here as usual Alex.

  17. alex robinson replied:

    Use the forge Mick!
    I think forge is a powerful word & that’s why it was taken & put into the word ‘forget’.
    I like the interpretation of ‘invent’ – does it not also mean ‘inspire’?
    In vent (Fr. = wind) / In spire – both = IN BREATH
    but also
    “vent (v.) late 14c., “emit from a confined space” so In & OUT -what life is all about.
    Cheers

    Ah yes, mr moon the evil redheads – perhaps they have an affinity with iron, or alternatively, an antipathy.
    Loki was a red head & he & his offspring are set to take down the gods at Ragnarok.

    Cheers

    Like your thinking Tom
    Iron is a big part of the earth’s cRust too. I think the pushing to drink water is suspicious – but it took reading an aboriginal comment on that for me to be able to question – as long as we have only one line of thinking we may as well be iron statues, cos we’re going nowhere.

    My ‘questioning’ of the lady in the vid came partly from noticing how she closes her eyes quite often as she talks – this is something that you see with chanellers, also I have ‘questions’ about tantric teaching – I didn’t realise at the time she was a proponent of that – that being said I think what is presented in that vid is very potent – this is the nature of life now – all kinds of info presented – some of great use, others maybe not so & it is up to each of us to sift according to our own common sense. What works for me may be poison for you. We can collect stories that are useful to us & throw away ones that aren’t – we have no obligation to ‘buy’ or ‘swallow’.

    very best to you

    ** extra bits added to end of article for anyone who’s interested!!

  18. Mick replied:

    Thanks Alex. I definitely agree that there is a positive aspect and all paths are there to be explored.
    As far as i understand it, Loki is not evil, but represents uncontrolled passion, a form of inspiration but lacking wisdom, disconnected from inner spirit.
    I have been thinking about the propagated fear of carbon dioxide, and also the bloody name of its main proponent – Gore.
    Also, the copper vs iron blood issue. Coincidentally, a friend sent a link about the amazing camouflage abilities of octopus, while another noted their blood has a high content of copper.

    Thank you for stirring the coals in the forge!

  19. sundaemon replied:

    Thanks for “breathing in” my comment!

    Seems that oxygen IS corruption, the corruptive element in air. Cholesterol and saturated fat are protective against oxidation. Seratonin and tryptophan promote it. Guess which way round the story is sold to us?

    Ray Peat is a good find. He seems to concur:
    “People who live at very high altitudes live significantly longer; they have a lower incidence of cancer (Weinberg, et al., 1987) and heart disease … several kinds of evidence indicate that it is the lower oxygen pressure itself that makes the biggest contribution to their longevity.”

    Also found it interesting when he said that seed oils were a way to carry on selling them after they were stopped being used for paint production. About as pleasant a thought as the scrapings from industrial furnaces being “disposed of” in our drinking water.

    Hell, they love us.

    A quick thought about the Djinn, the fire spirits the Quran says were around before us, and who didn’t much like the idea of bowing to us. These self-styled gods fit the profile pretty well of being the “perps” in all this – fire in the minds of men, indeed. What happens when there’s too much fire and not enough iron? Well, we get a whole load of burnt offerings, for one. And a lot of rusty spilt blood.
    Another intriguing idea is this:
    What is anathema to fire? Water. We have woman, the water energy, the viciously attacked and degraded principle. And another idea – it appears that iron can actually generate water, in the womb of the earth:

    “Nils, who was Chief of Mining in Finland. He had told his son, with some awe, that while salt water never penetrated iron mines on the Finnish coast, even when they were below sea level, fresh water was always present on the rocky floors of the same mines!
    From his work, Nordenskjold concluded that a new type of water, independent of the hydrologic cycle, and generated by the Earth itself, was available. He called this water “primary,” due to its association with so-called “primary rocks,” which geologists term magmatic”
    http://merlib.org/node/5063

    Hm, we’ve got that mag- prefix again. And the old Chinese idea of water coming from metal finally makes sense.

    So. Men who can forge themselves in the fire, producing the iron magnetic magic rod, male energy, can protect the feminine from the fire, and so birth water, the stuff of life?

    What does the steel sword symbolise? Knowledge, intellect. Wit is said to be “keen” or “sharp.” So with wit and knowledge we can forge our swords, and put them to the Djinn.

    I read Lana Cantrell a couple of months ago and her suggestion is that whites are unable to absorb iron properly, whereas darker-skinned people have the same problem with copper, hence the curly hair. Is that why us whites are more mal-leable for mal-licious ends? Have we fallen for ignorant/unforged ways of life which open us up to corruption/oxidation/degeneration?

  20. sundaemon replied:

    Quick addendum – the “fire triangle”: Fuel, which is obvious, heat, which is a truism, and oxygen. So, fire demons just love oxygen. But how can they get more? Well, there’s always “nuclear power”! Never mind your free energy, that would be for us mortals. With nuclear generators, you get to destroy water to create hydrogen (handy for your bombs), and… oxygen! As a lovely “by-product.”

    If we run with this, their obsession with the full moon also makes sense – the moon’s rays are combustive, whereas those of the sun douse flames. Fire spirits are more powerful when the moon is big and waxing. So you get more “lunatics”. And stock market crashes.

  21. Mick replied:

    If I may say, very interesting points, Sundaemon. Though your moniker would make a good name for a genie. Synchronistically i have also been wondering about the djinn. The holocaust of Libya will certainly have kept them fed.
    I still feel that iron should have been left in the ground. If i was to fashion a sword then it would be of obsidian, as sharp and, apparently, stronger than steel. As for armour, lacquered leather is as strong, and much lighter than metal.
    I remember reading about Ironbridge in Shropshire, and how the valley resembled a scene from Dante’s Inferno because of the numerous blast furnaces. It apparently kicked off the Industrial Revolution, and the Victorian’s love affair with iron.

  22. alex robinson replied:

    Thanks for the extra tidbits & link Mick – fascinating to see what comes out of the woodwork when new views are entertained!

    Cheers

    Marvelous thought mr rebel
    Copper has allegedly interesting side effects – “Copper appears to have the property of greatly stimulating mental energies and therefore it enhances concentration and conscious awareness generally” – that would certainly be a no no if you wanted to dumb down a world.

    very best to you my friend

  23. Mick replied:

    Are we picking up on memes? Another friend sent me this comment this morning:

    In Scotland our other national drink is Irn Bru. It’s a sad reflection of
    our economic downturn that we are reduced to drinking rusty water instead
    of building ships.

  24. sundaemon replied:

    Thanks Mick, and I like the Irn Bru sync! (perhaps I am a genie ;-))

    So much of the more brutal parts of history (most of what we’re told) and our existence today, seem “impossible” – from the perspective of man, and life. Impossibly brutal. Throwing a devil’s-horn hand sign doesn’t make you do that. And our own brutality to ourselves, even on a day-to-day personal level. That’s why possession, property, commerce – and possession by these spirits – it fits.

    We’ve been given plenty of “stories” and “myths” about these beings. Of course, the first thing “they” do is call our ancestors liars, or fools by implication. Which wouldn’t be so bad, except we believe them.

    “Know thy enemy” is a pretty good starting point for forging suitable tools.

    One thing I just have to mention – sodomy was always considered a transmission mechanism for incubation of these “entities”, the younger the better. Just saying.

    Not that these are “answers”, Alex! More signposts, signs, reading between the lines. Play. Thanks for your wanderings, may your continued journey be fruitful.

  25. Mick replied:

    Another thought i had, is that the process of forging a sword is actually a form of weaving.
    The Sword of Wisdom
    Ever since the adepts handed on The secret of the sword, The true imperative has been upheld Completely, truly adamant. If someone asks me about Looking for its origin, I say it is not ordinary iron. This lump of iron Comes from receptive stillness; When you obtain it, it rises up.
    Forging it in a glowing fire, Through repeated efforts It is refined And forged into steel.
    When students of the Tao Know this secret, The spirit of light is intensely powerful,And devils of darkness vanish. The subtle function of spiritual work Is truly hard to measure; I now give an explanation for you. In telling you about it I divulge the celestial mechanism.Setting to work when one yang comes back; First have the six yangs pump the furnace bellows; Then the six yins work the tongs and hammer. When the work of firing is complete,It produces the sword; When it is first done, It flashes like lightning. Brandish it horizontally And a cold clear breeze arises; Hold it upright, And the shining bright moon appears. Auspicious light illumines heaven and earth; Sprites and ghosts are distressed. It stops turbidity, brings out clarity, Sweeps away weird defilements; It slays volatility, Cuts down aggressiveness, Destroys monsters: Influences draining away Vitality, energy and spirit All vanish in the light of the sword Entanglements are cut off, umination dies down, And the web of feelings is rent asunder. Where the spiritual edge is imed, mountains crumble; The demon kinds of mundane planes are all routed. This precious sword fundamentally has no form; The name is set up because it has spiritual effect. Learning the Tao and practicing reality Depend on this sword: Without this sword, The Tao cannot be achieved. Opening up the vast darkness, Distinguishing heaven and earth, Dissolving obstructions, transmuting objects – All is included. If you ask me to show it to you, I bring it out before you -Do you understand or not? Translated by Thomas Cleary, 1989, p. 115-117

    from:

    http://vigilantdream.blogspot.com/2009/03/majic-of-mirrors.html

  26. sundaemon replied:

    Hm, good link. Was thinking about King Arthur and the lady of the lake, who brings Excalibur (Ex-Kali-Burn?)
    That metal/water affinity again.
    Or is it the sword that brings HER?
    It’s the hero who “gets the girl.” He who can wield the sword.
    Amusingly, I’m seeing Prince Adam, who holds aloft the sword of power and becomes He-Man, although he doesn’t seem to change physically, he just gets a bit more naked, back to the original state, with a Maltese cross symbol at his breast.
    He’s a twin, his sister is She-Ra. (Aries backwards?)
    Not the first Twin to appear in such a mythology – as a Gemini I’ve had my “two eyes” open for that.
    Gemini seems to be a degraded sign, willfully misunderstood (chatterboxes – c’mon is that the best you can do? for the sign that takes us to the threshold of the solstice?). Although not as bad as what they’ve done to Cancer. The ultimate feminine sign, quel surprise.
    Women are the most open to possession by evil. They perish and degrade fast in the presence of evil, of energy blockage, excess fire, they need flow, we all do. The flower needs water. Without wishing to get too graphic, water welcomes the man at intimate moments.
    If it’s metal that births water, and if all diseases are a blockage in the energy system,

    “Whenever a particular elemental energy grows too strong, it tends to exert an excessively stimulating influence over the following element in the creative cycle, like a domineering mother over a child, and at this point the element which controls the excessive energy kicks in to subjugate it and restore harmony.

    Fire helps Earth, is helped by Wood, hinders Metal, is hindered by Water
    Metal helps Water, is helped by Earth, hinders Wood, is hindered by Fire”

    Metal, mental. Fire hindering the mind, govern-Ment. Corruption everywhere, rust everywhere.
    Time to “tap into” the knowledge that is metal/mental. Where is that found? In the earth. In nature, in the soil. If we are beings of clay, then inside our very bodies. The average new-ager will say we are not our bodies. Wrong, by 180 degrees. Our bodies are trying to tell us this. The average American is inflated like a balloon, their bodies saying, hey! Pay attention!
    Then the Great Flood may be something that is to come, rather than in the past. Makes sense, if it’s a new world we’re birthing.

    • alex robinson replied:

      More great thoughts, thanks sundaemon – I’m actually running with this theme atm, so should have something more soon – it’s something that’s been in my mind for a while but took your comment to have ignite it.

      If you post something too let me know & I’ll link it & I see you & Mick have a great conversation going on so I’ll bow out & leave you to it :)

      very best to both of you

  27. Mick replied:

    Thanks, Alex. Had no intention of pitching tent, but I’ll run with another spark that Sundaemon has ignited.
    The point that is often overlooked about Excalibur or Caliburn is the importance of the scabbard. From “The Secret Tradition in Arthurian Legend” by Gareth Knight:
    ‘ That there was more than simply a physical liaison involved in the mating of Morgan and Arthur is to be seen in the stories of Excalibur and its scabbard. Morgan goes to great lengths to obtain these from Arthur, for Excalibur is more than a magic sword for use in battle. It is the secret and power of polarity working on the inner and outer planes. This is its significance and its provenance from, and return to,the Lady of the Lake. It is also why Merlin particularly charges Arthur to guard and cherish the scabbard, for it is as important, if not more so, than the sword itself. In other words, if Excalibur is the power of the use of polarities according to inner principles; the scabbard is the proper containment and skilled knowledge of how and when to use these forces.’
    I notice, Alex, you included a picture of Tsubaki Sanjuro (played by the inimitable, yet tragically alcoholic, Toshiro Mifune) with drawn sword. There is a scene from the film Sanjuro where the protagonists are hiding in a barn. There, an elderly noble lady tells Sanjuro that he is like a sword without its scabbard, and because it is permanently drawn, its light shines too bright and burns too fierce. Sanjuro is particularly discomfited by this perceptive analogy.
    As for the word burn, in Steven Erikson’s fantasy series Malazan Book of the Fallen, Burn is the name ascribed to Earth, which then linked me to Deep Purple’s 1973 hit ‘Burn’. I won’t include the lyrics, but they are fitting for the times we are in.
    I was thinking that iron is particularly symbolic of the Roman Empire (links to Mars, and all that) when i came across this wonderful series on You Tube hosted by Terry Jones, an ex-Python. It is a fascinating documentary (over 10 years old now, i think) about the true sophistication of the Gallic Celts. They were particularly skilled metal workers, and if iron represents Rome, then gold symbolizes the Gauls.

    Many thanks, Alex :-)

    • alex robinson replied:

      So Mick does the scabbard = the vagina – the female principle/ma?

      I wasn’t sure about using the image of the warrior but struggled to find anything else that had quite the same effect – one site said it was from a movie Harikiri (which is none too auspicious) – but I decided to run with it anyway – the pic not the sword :)

      cheers

  28. Mick replied:

    Taking a closer look, it’s not Mifune, is it? Still, it reminded me of Sanjuro and the point of the ever-drawn sword. Harakiri to us westerners is indeed inauspicious, ‘falling on one’s sword’ being a Roman indulgence. ‘Hanging by one’s petard’ seems more appropriate since the rise of Star Trek – “Make it so, Number One”. Much more Odinic in nature. Ironically, though, a petard is a small bomb:

    “A petard was a bell-shaped metal grenade typically filled with five or six pounds of gunpowder and set off by a fuse.

    Unfortunately, the devices were unreliable and often went off unexpectedly. Hence the expression, where hoist meant to be lifted up, an understated description of the result of being blown up by your own bomb.

    The name of the device came from the Latin petar, to break wind (fart), perhaps a sarcastic comment about the thin noise of a muffled explosion at the far end of an excavation or the visible image you can picture of debry bursting out of a cave.”

    Should be “Make it so, Number Two”, i guess.

    “Mick does the scabbard”? Sorry, but “Debbie Does Dallas” came to mind.

    The water of the scabbard quenches the heat of the firebrand. I must admit I prefer my sword sheathed.

    And there we go full circle, right back to Tantra, and the joy of breasts :-)

    • alex robinson replied:

      Sorry Mick, I’m not up on blood thirsty movies – I think I typed in sword & warrior or some such thing.
      I thought a petard was a flag!
      The breasts will return – never fear :)
      cheers

  29. Max replied:

    So many hints in this article and in the comments alike and no one brought up him:

    • alex robinson replied:

      until now … :) Schwarz = black as you know – no accident I’m sure

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